Discussion:
IndieHosters
Michiel de Jong
2014-11-10 17:32:04 UTC
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A common problem with federated-social-web products is that there are often
not enough people running "nodes".

Sometimes the developers of the software offer a "mothership" node which is
easy to sign up to, but if 80% of the users are on one "main" node of a
federated social network, then this doesn't really help the purpose of
decentralization, of course.

This is why we (Pierre Ozoux and I) are setting up IndieHosters.

We will bridge the gap between these software developers and their
potential end users:

https://indiehosters.net/

Crowd-funding starting soon! :)


Cheers,
Michiel
Simon Tennant
2014-11-10 18:08:02 UTC
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Great idea Michiel.

Standing by to help you add Buddycloud hosting (Docker images:
https://registry.hub.docker.com/repos/buddycloud/). Just say when ;)

S.
Post by Michiel de Jong
A common problem with federated-social-web products is that there are
often not enough people running "nodes".
Sometimes the developers of the software offer a "mothership" node which
is easy to sign up to, but if 80% of the users are on one "main" node of a
federated social network, then this doesn't really help the purpose of
decentralization, of course.
This is why we (Pierre Ozoux and I) are setting up IndieHosters.
We will bridge the gap between these software developers and their
https://indiehosters.net/
Crowd-funding starting soon! :)
Cheers,
Michiel
--
Simon Tennant | Founder & CEO | Buddycloud <http://buddycloud.com> | +49 17
8545 0880
Michiel de Jong
2014-11-10 18:58:53 UTC
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Great, absolutely! :) Replied off-list.


Who else is working on a fedsocweb project which is looking for (more)
hosting providers? If so, we would love to help you decentralize your user
base. Especially if your project is already packaged for Docker, we can
quite easily add it as a product. First come, first serve! :)
Post by Simon Tennant
Great idea Michiel.
https://registry.hub.docker.com/repos/buddycloud/). Just say when ;)
S.
Post by Michiel de Jong
A common problem with federated-social-web products is that there are
often not enough people running "nodes".
Sometimes the developers of the software offer a "mothership" node which
is easy to sign up to, but if 80% of the users are on one "main" node of a
federated social network, then this doesn't really help the purpose of
decentralization, of course.
This is why we (Pierre Ozoux and I) are setting up IndieHosters.
We will bridge the gap between these software developers and their
https://indiehosters.net/
Crowd-funding starting soon! :)
Cheers,
Michiel
--
Simon Tennant | Founder & CEO | Buddycloud <http://buddycloud.com> | +49
17 8545 0880
Christopher Allan Webber
2014-11-13 19:35:18 UTC
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Wow, this looks like a great project!

Would you all be interested in hosting MediaGoblin instances? I'd be
happy to coordinate further if you are.

- cwebb
Post by Michiel de Jong
Great, absolutely! :) Replied off-list.
Who else is working on a fedsocweb project which is looking for (more)
hosting providers? If so, we would love to help you decentralize your user
base. Especially if your project is already packaged for Docker, we can
quite easily add it as a product. First come, first serve! :)
Post by Simon Tennant
Great idea Michiel.
https://registry.hub.docker.com/repos/buddycloud/). Just say when ;)
S.
Post by Michiel de Jong
A common problem with federated-social-web products is that there are
often not enough people running "nodes".
Sometimes the developers of the software offer a "mothership" node which
is easy to sign up to, but if 80% of the users are on one "main" node of a
federated social network, then this doesn't really help the purpose of
decentralization, of course.
This is why we (Pierre Ozoux and I) are setting up IndieHosters.
We will bridge the gap between these software developers and their
https://indiehosters.net/
Crowd-funding starting soon! :)
Cheers,
Michiel
--
Simon Tennant | Founder & CEO | Buddycloud <http://buddycloud.com> | +49
17 8545 0880
Michiel de Jong
2014-11-15 11:20:47 UTC
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Yes! We definitely want to offer MediaGoblin hosting. It's exactly the kind
of project that could benefit from this, to reach more users (e.g. artists
who care about owning the way they publish their media, but don't know how
to set up and run a server).

On Thursday we will launch a first crowd-funding campaign covering
WordPress and Known (withknown.com). Once we have set up all those
instances, we want to do another round dedicated to XMPP-based hosting, and
one dedicated to hosting personal data servers (ownCloud/CozyCloud).

We want to make all applications "configured, but asleep", so that we can
offer them to all users at no extra cost. We only spend RAM and disk space
on users who actually use a certain application.

People who sign up for one application, will automatically get all the
other ones too, as soon as we add them. We still have to develop this
wake-on-use system, but that's the plan.

Is there a Docker image for MediaGoblin? Can it be run as a http backend
behind an SNI offloader?

One of the principles of IndieHosters is migration-oriented hosting, so
taking a backup each hour, once under the hoster's control, and once under
the control of an independent standby, and always being ready to restore
from this backup (even if your IndieHoster walks under a bus, you can
contact the standby hoster, and they can give you your data, or simply
restore your instance elsewhere for you from their backup). I see
MediaGoblin uses postgres, so I guess to migrate an instance you would use
a postgres dump, and rsync the content folder?

Cheers!
Michiel


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Allan Webber <
Post by Christopher Allan Webber
Wow, this looks like a great project!
Would you all be interested in hosting MediaGoblin instances? I'd be
happy to coordinate further if you are.
- cwebb
Post by Michiel de Jong
Great, absolutely! :) Replied off-list.
Who else is working on a fedsocweb project which is looking for (more)
hosting providers? If so, we would love to help you decentralize your
user
Post by Michiel de Jong
base. Especially if your project is already packaged for Docker, we can
quite easily add it as a product. First come, first serve! :)
Post by Simon Tennant
Great idea Michiel.
https://registry.hub.docker.com/repos/buddycloud/). Just say when ;)
S.
Post by Michiel de Jong
A common problem with federated-social-web products is that there are
often not enough people running "nodes".
Sometimes the developers of the software offer a "mothership" node
which
Post by Michiel de Jong
Post by Simon Tennant
Post by Michiel de Jong
is easy to sign up to, but if 80% of the users are on one "main" node
of a
Post by Michiel de Jong
Post by Simon Tennant
Post by Michiel de Jong
federated social network, then this doesn't really help the purpose of
decentralization, of course.
This is why we (Pierre Ozoux and I) are setting up IndieHosters.
We will bridge the gap between these software developers and their
https://indiehosters.net/
Crowd-funding starting soon! :)
Cheers,
Michiel
--
Simon Tennant | Founder & CEO | Buddycloud <http://buddycloud.com> |
+49
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